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28 July, 2010 / theexpositor

And you wonder why I call for true believers to leave the PCUSA?

The is downright weird and a travesty!



  1. The Seeking Disciple / Jul 28 2010 21 19

    What in the world are they doing? How strange.

  2. Jen / Jul 29 2010 23 27

    I can’t believe I watched this to the end. And I still have no idea why they were doing all that.

    • theexpositor / Jul 30 2010 7 14

      Jen, It’s indicative of a denomination that has chosen to follow their own leads and abandon a commitment to the truth of Scripture and the Gospel.

  3. seminarian / Jul 30 2010 1 32

    Sad to see criticism of fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. I observed many theologically sound representations in their opening processional, incorporating art in worship. Observed animals coming in two by two, liturgical dancing, representation of other cultures, the paraments, bread and wine… This may be different then you or I worship, but nevertheless they are our brothers and sisters in Christ… Being different is okay, after all Jesus was different and exemplified perfection, which we will NEVER obtain.

  4. seminarian / Jul 30 2010 1 38

    Oh, and don’t forget Ruth Graham, you know Billy’s wife was a member of the PCUSA… In fact he lives in a PCUSA community in Montreat, NC.

  5. Seminarian / Jul 30 2010 12 34

    As a Christian, I have come in contact with several Christians of different denominations. All denominations (SBC, PCA, UMC, PCUSA, ABC, etc..) or non-denoms have issues I disagree with, and that’s okay (their is no “Church Charming”)… I have met people who follow their church covenant as their primary, seconded by The Bible. My perspective is that covenant, doctrine, book of order are tools useful giving each denomination their identity/government. I find it disheartening that as Christians we are torn apart by God’s gift of diversity.

    Sexuality appears to be a big issue here. Kudos to the PCUSA for addressing this issue. When interpreting The Bible it is essential to use hermeneutical and exegetical methods to gain understanding of the context the Scripture was intended for. Scripture is deep. We don’t have all the answers, but I feel that as times change, God grants us the ability to grow and learn… It has been proven that there are biological differences between a heterosexual and a homosexual in reference to their cerebellum. As a heterosexual, I cannot imagine that anyone would choose that lifestyle.

    I felt as though there was some cynicism in your tone… Ideally it would be wonderful joining together singing ‘Kumbaya’, realistically that will never happen. Therefore you have no excuse, whoever you are, when you judge others; for in passing judgement on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge are doing the very same things (Romans 2:1).

  6. Seminarian / Jul 30 2010 12 45

    BTW the first two links came up “broken”.. I read the last two links and also went to the PCUSA website… Their appears to be conflict between what the blog states and what the denomination states…

    • theexpositor / Jul 30 2010 13 15

      Seminarian….sorry for the broken links. I copied them directly from, where you can do a search if you like and read the entire article.

      There is a tremendous difference between being judgemental/condeming and judging in the sense of examining a person or doctrine in the light of Scripture. In many cases people will lump them all together. (Scripture in point, Matthew 7, “FIRST take the log out of your own eye, and THEN you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.” emphasis mine.)

      I think the Bible is clear that we should be discerning, to examine everything and to speak the truth, in love (Eph. 4:15)

      Lastly, You did note a touch of sarcism in my kumbaya comment. Forgive me, its a bad habit, and thanks for your comments.

  7. Seminarian / Jul 30 2010 14 05

    I struggle with this… I find that as right wingers, we are a little close minded. I am discerning my call with regards to my brothers and sisters, and perhaps I don’t ‘fit’ in with the typical conservative mind-set any longer… Where’s the love in citicizing someones style of worship? (which is how this ‘blog’ began).

    I would not expect worship in the early church to be applicable to worship in today’s church… All of the representations in the video post are theologically sound, you just have to look and study them.

    Finally, I have learned that it is much easier to judge someone else than to look at our own lives and place judgement on ourselves. Sorry, sounds kind of Joel Olsteen’ish’.

    Thanks for chatting.

  8. Douglas / Jul 31 2010 2 39

    Just thinking here but by all accounts I think seminarian needs to go to another seminary where the whole Gospel and nothing but the Gospel is proclaimed. PRONTO! The PCUSA has become a hive of devils and demons inside human bodies. Just saying….

  9. Seminarian / Aug 2 2010 10 13

    I personally thought Dallas Theological Seminary was a great school…

  10. Douglas / Aug 18 2010 11 29

    Does Dallas Theological Seminary teach good, sharp, penetrating, clear, concise discernment? Sound doctrine? The Reformed Faith in all its glory? The Five Solas of the Reformation? The Doctrines of Grace? T.U.L.I.P.? Calvinism? Most folks do not like those teachings eh? The professing church is being flooded with error, false teachings, heresies, etc., from within and from without, right, left and center, from the front and from the rear, from above and from below, from all around. Christians have to be on the alert constantly and cannot afford to let ones guard down for a moment, we are in a ferocious battle for the truth. I see Dallas promotes Dispensationalism in their book section and there are one or two or so other sus authors in the book section including Jack Deere for one instance among a few others. Not all of them are false teachers in the book section thankfully..

    Here is some sound doctrine on the errors of Dispensationalism and have a study of those and see if your seminary is in error or not.

    “Dispensationalism is a system of biblical interpretation formalized in the nineteenth century by John Nelson Darby and later popularized by the publishing of the study Bible of C. I. Scofield and the establishment of Dallas Theological Seminary by Lewis Sperry Chafer. It is the foundation of what is known in eschatological studies as “pre-tribulational premillenialism” and involves the division of history into (usually) seven distinct periods of time known as “dispensations”. Twentieth century writers such as John Walvoord, Dwight Pentecost, and Charles Ryrie brought the doctrines of Dispensationalism into mainstream scholarship, which are often summarized by Ryrie’s famous “sine qua non”, i.e., his statement of the three primary tenets of the system. These are:
    1) a clear distinction between Israel and the Church,
    2) literal interpretation of Scripture, and
    3) the glory of God as the primary goal of history.
    We find only the third of these principles to be valid. As stated above, God’s glory is clearly the driving force behind all things …. We believe there is one people of God, rooted in the Abrahamic Covenant, united in Christ, and consisting of both Jew and Gentile alike.”

  11. Aaron B. McEwen / Sep 26 2010 20 33

    ALSO…apparently everyone wearing a multi colored stole in the crowd was a gay rights advocate, according to the Layman Online:

    There were many things wrong with that GA. The worst was how out of touch the commissioners were with the beliefs of their sessions.

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